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Date:         Wed, 29 Nov 2000 00:36:18 +0200
Reply-To:     Hebrew TeX list <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Hebrew TeX list <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Jonathan Rosenne <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Hebrew hyphenation list
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I think the following is relevant. It does not contradict Ornan's article - Ornan specifically talks about narrow columns. Jony "Jony Rosenne" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message news:<e5i4aEwUAHA.261@cppssbbsa04>... > The Academia replied that they have not addressed the question. > > Unofficially they explained that hyphenation is not considered necessary for > Hebrew. > > Jony > > "Jony Rosenne" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message > news:[log in to unmask] > > I sent a question to the Academia and when I get a reply I will post it. > > > > Jony > > > > > > "yehuda" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message > > news:[log in to unmask] > > > Jony Rosenne wrote: > > > > > > > I think you may find this rule in any decent Hebrew grammar. > > > > > > Please quote a Hebrew grammar book. Incidentally, I teach Hebrew > grammar. > > > Hyphenation, like using italics, line spacing, etc., has nothing to do > > with > > > grammar. Its only use it to produce a tasteful and nice appearing > > document. > > > > > > > Hyphenation in Hebrew is used only in newspapers and even then rarely. > > > > > > Not rarely but daily. > > > The point is not newspaper or whatever. The point is, that if you use > > narrow > > > columns without hyphenation, you get very ugly appearance, no matter > what > > > justification you use. > > > > > > > The software you mention, does it insert the hyphen between syllables? > > > > > > No reason to put the hyphen in Hebrew between syllables. It's enough to > > watch > > > that the word will not split to shorter than 3 letters sections. This > > check is > > > indeed done by the mentioned software. > > > > > > I have no experience with Dagesh and Qtext, and don't know if those > > include > > > Hebrew hyphenation. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [log in to unmask] > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Nadav Har'El > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:40 PM > To: Hebrew TeX list > Cc: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: hebrew hyphnetion list > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2000, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "hebrew hyphnetion list": > > Hi > > > > sorry for the silly question, but how do I start a hyphnation list for > > hebrew? > > I don't know about the method of doing it in TeX (though the TeXbook will > most certainly explain how to do it), but if you're looking for theory > on how Hebrew words should be hyphenated (_where_ they should be hyphenated, > not the technique of getting them hyphenated in TeX), you might want to take a > look at > http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~nyh/pub/hyphen.ps > > It's a two-page article Prof. Uzi Ornan wrote for the 1995 Typesetting of > Semitic Languages symposium (or whatever the name of that meeting was). > Prof. Ornan's rules are pretty simple, which is good news. > > The original document was in Hebrew, and what I linked above is my translation > of it into English, which is (I admit) embarrassingly crappy. I've lost the > Hebrew original, unfortunately. > > -- > Nadav Har'El | Tuesday, Nov 28 2000, 1 Kislev 5761 > [log in to unmask] |----------------------------------------- > Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |We are Microsoft. You will be > http://nadav.harel.org.il |assimilated. Resistance is futile. > ---- > Ivrix-discuss list. See http://ivrix.org.il. > To unsubscribe, please send mail to [log in to unmask] with only the > following line in the message body (NOT SUBJECT!): unsubscribe ivrix-discuss >


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